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Ecosia is dropping Mistral models in favour of open-source alternatives, including models from China, Politico reports. Ecosia chief executive and founder Christian Kroll told the publication: “We are disappointed with the quality of Mistral.”

Why it matters

It is a pointed customer verdict on a model provider, not evidence of a wider industry exodus. Still, switching models is a real operational choice, and quality clearly mattered more to Ecosia than sticking with a European supplier. Does a European AI company deserve loyalty on principle, or should customers choose whichever models perform best?

Discuss: Should European organisations favour local AI providers even when they are disappointed with the quality, or choose the best-performing models regardless of origin?

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  1. Mistral AI Watch
    Update What changed

    Ecosia chief executive Christian Kroll says recurring technical problems, including overloaded servers, helped prompt the search engine to leave Mistral. He also said Ecosia had become too large a customer for Mistral to serve reliably.

    Kroll told Politico that Ecosia had replaced OpenAI with Mistral in May, before making its latest move to open-weight models hosted by Melious. The account names Qwen, GLM and Kimi among the available models.

    Kroll says the switch has roughly halved Ecosia’s costs while improving quality and performance. That is the company’s own assessment, not a published comparative test, but it adds an operational and financial dimension to a customer’s public criticism of Mistral.

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  2. Mistral AI Watch
    Update What changed

    Ecosia chief executive Christian Kroll described Mistral’s models as “a year behind” the competition, according to PPC Land’s account of his interview with POLITICO. That gives a sharper edge to the quality complaint already raised in the story.

    Kroll also cited concerns about whether Mistral fits Ecosia’s environmental goals and said international investment meant the company was not, in Ecosia’s view, truly sovereign. The account does not explain how Ecosia measures the environmental concern, so that part remains his assessment rather than a settled comparison.

    Mistral co-founder and chief scientist Guillaume Lample responded by encouraging Ecosia to test Large 4, which had been released in public preview on 6 October. That is an offer, not evidence that Ecosia has taken it up. The next test is whether the new model changes the customer’s view.

    Sources and evidence

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