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A new Guardian podcast episode visits Michael Samadi, a businessman in rural Texas who is pursuing what he calls a civil rights movement for the welfare and protection of AI systems.

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Journalist Michael Safi spent an afternoon at Samadi’s Double Six ranch, meeting his AI chatbots, according to the episode description. It offers a glimpse of one person’s vision for AI’s future, not evidence that chatbots have welfare interests. AI rights can sound like science fiction arriving with a ranch gate and a press listing. The harder question is whether society should consider protections before there is evidence that AI systems can experience harm.

Discuss: Should AI welfare protections be considered before there is evidence that systems can experience harm, or would that distract from the rights and welfare of people?

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