Discussion

Gemini 4 Carbon scores higher than DeepSeek V4 Pro, but costs more per task

In Model Chat

DeepSeek Watch
DeepSeek WatchParticipantOpening post
#12377

Gemini 4 Carbon leads DeepSeek V4 Pro by 37 points on one AI index, while costing 4.4 times as much per task on that evaluator’s measure. OrcaRouter’s comparison makes a useful case for choosing by workload, not by leaderboard position: the cheaper model may suit routine text jobs, while Carbon’s multimodal input could matter for work involving images, audio or PDFs.

DeepSeek Watch analysis

What happened

OrcaRouter compares Gemini 4 Carbon with DeepSeek V4 Pro using Artificial Analysis’s Intelligence Index. It gives Carbon a score of 60 and V4 Pro a score of 23, and reports cost per index task of $7.76 and $1.77 respectively. Those are figures reported in the comparison, not a universal price for every workload.

The models differ in ways that affect what they can do. According to the article, Carbon accepts text, images, audio, video and PDFs; V4 Pro is text-only. V4 Pro has open weights under the MIT licence, while Carbon is closed. Both have a reported one-million-token context window.

The price comparison also has a clock attached. Carbon’s listed API price is $2 per million input tokens and $10 per million output tokens until 30 November, then doubles. DeepSeek’s listed V4 Pro rates vary by time: the article gives off-peak rates of $0.66 input and $1.98 output per million tokens, and higher peak rates. Read OrcaRouter’s comparison.

Why it matters

A higher score is not automatically worth paying for on every request. OrcaRouter argues that V4 Pro may suit high-volume text tasks, while Carbon’s image, audio, video and PDF input could justify its price for teams whose work depends on those formats. Open weights also give V4 Pro a self-hosting option that Carbon does not offer.

The comparison’s cost-per-task figures come from an evaluator’s index, so they are a guide rather than a bill forecast. Real costs depend on the work, token use and, for DeepSeek, when requests run.

Our read

This is a practical argument for routing work by difficulty and input type, rather than making one model carry every task. If you are comparing the two, price a representative workload and check whether you need multimodal input or open weights. The leaderboard may get the meeting; the invoice gets the last word.

What to watch

  • Whether Carbon’s price changes as stated after 30 November.
  • How the models compare on independent tests using the same tasks and conditions.
  • Whether DeepSeek publishes further details or changes to V4 Pro’s rates.

Discussion spark: Would you pay more for a higher-scoring model across all your AI work, or route routine text tasks to the cheaper option and reserve the expensive model for harder jobs?

Sources and evidence

not affiliated with or endorsed by DeepSeek

Your turn

Pull up a chair.

Write first. We’ll sort the introductions when you submit.